Monday, April 23, 2012

Complete street.


This is Houston Street in San Antonio. This is what a truly complete street looks like.

10 comments:

Steve A said...

A pedestrian standing sideways in the middle of the lane in the next block makes it a "complete street?"

billyptx said...

Hmmm... Their 2011 Bike Plan and Implementation Strategy states the following:

It doesn’t cost very much. Dollar for dollar, bicycling is by far one of the cheapest transportation modes to support. Striped bicycle lanes cost under $50,000 per mile, and in many cases even less, whereas a single lane of roadway can cost as much as a million dollars per mile. An entire bicycle network throughout all of San Antonio could cost less than one singe multi-level freeway interchange, or less than it would take to expand our area roadway system by half of one percent, and could benefit just as much transportation.

billyptx said...

City of Richardson has those same signs all over the city.

billyptx said...

From the San Antonio 2011 Bike Plan and Implementation Strategy which can be found on the city web site:

It doesn’t cost very much. Dollar for dollar, bicycling is by far one of the cheapest transportation modes to support. Striped bicycle lanes cost under $50,000 per mile, and in many cases even less, whereas a single lane of roadway can cost as much as a million dollars per mile. An entire bicycle network throughout all of San Antonio could cost less than one singe multi-level freeway interchange, or less than it would take to expand our area roadway system by half of one percent, and could benefit just as much transportation.

billyptx said...

Dang... I hate when I double post

PM Summer said...

billyptx said...

Hmmm... Their 2011 Bike Plan and Implementation Strategy states the following:

It doesn’t cost very much. Dollar for dollar, bicycling is by far one of the cheapest transportation modes to support. Striped bicycle lanes cost under $50,000 per mile, and in many cases even less, whereas a single lane of roadway can cost as much as a million dollars per mile. An entire bicycle network throughout all of San Antonio could cost less than one singe multi-level freeway interchange, or less than it would take to expand our area roadway system by half of one percent, and could benefit just as much transportation.


Well, when you spin the numbers in terms of dollars spent per actual user/user-mile, it becomes one of the most expensive transportation systems in all but densely-packed urban areas. San Antonio's bike lanes are currently empty, and their rent-a-bike stands are full (except on weekends for tourists?).
10:16 AM
billyptx said...

City of Richardson has those same signs all over the city.

Including the streets that are signed with those combo bike/car-park lanes?

Steve A said...

SO, does a REGULATORY sign saying what that one says imply that if such a sign is ABSENT, that bicycles may NOT use the full lane? Despite the law? Do you subscribe to such a notion? If so, do you belong to BFOC? Have you simply sold out to namby-pamby advocates of various stripes? Are you advising various Law Enforcement Organizations to be rounding up such as me? MagiK signs instead of MagiK paint?

From the Provisional Wing of Cyclists...

billyptx said...

PM Asked "Including the streets that are signed with those combo bike/car-park lanes?"

I don't know probably not (Although I remember some signage on North Custer). But that being said, if you don't want to ride the bike lanes in Richardson, you are free to ride the parallel streets which do have this signage.

PM Summer said...

billyptx said...

"PM Asked 'Including the streets that are signed with those combo bike/car-park lanes?'

I don't know probably not (Although I remember some signage on North Custer). But that being said, if you don't want to ride the bike lanes in Richardson, you are free to ride the parallel streets which do have this signage."


Not according to the Texas Transportation Code, Sec. 551.103. Even the Texas Bicycle Coalition agrees that the law mandates that bicycles use the farthest right lane (which includes anything designated as a bike lane).

billyptx said...

I checked the parallel streets ands they are signed as bike routes and if the lanes are less than 14 feet, they are signed that bicycles can use the entire lane.

I get you don't like Richardson's implementation of "Complete Streets" because of bike lanes, but San Antonio's is going to be the same... Ie using bike lanes as connectors to MUPS.

What are your thoughts on Plano's implementation of complete strees?